One of the best assessments I've ever read. I agree that a "War of the Worlds" type scenario is unlikely and too dramatic for its own good, though I do not rule out the potential for a false flag. What is the consensus on whether Wernher von Braun really did warn about this?
You are cautious but also include a wide diversity of phenomena. Then there are the experiences associated with "UFOs" that are not directly about space craft, such as missing time.
I knew someone who was an Air Force officer (captain, with some degree of clearance, now deceased, but he lives on in my graphic design training) who was charged with guarding the files at one location during the Korean War (night watchman). He said he read the whole thing and that the most interesting discovery was documentation of the Roswell-area crash (really in Corona), bodies and craft recovered, Hangar 18 true. What is the chances that this was spiked?
If so, why was it in the files? Who would assume a security-cleared officer would read it and tell the story to one of his trusted students?
Steven M. Greer (I am undecided what to make of him) says that all known visible phenomena are the work of earth-based military contractors, including the "tic tac" that can instantly change locations. So while I accept that some kind of earth-based, local, natural phenom is likely, there are probably things we're paying for that we're not being told about. What, exactly, goes on at A51? It's "not for nothing."
Then there are the corn muffins, in one era offered to people by faeries emerging from the woods, and in another by "alien visitors" descending from a "space ship," in both instances wearing the garb of their era. But both times, it was corn muffins. Now that is spooky, especially if you include the potential for jam and butter.
Very interesting and intelligent article on a difficult topic. I really enjoyed it. Regarding the intelligence behind it, it brings to mind the Anunnaki from Zachariah Stitchin's book, The 12th Planet. He didn't write a novel. He was a translator of the ancient languages and simply presents his translations from the Sumerians of 5,000 to 6,000 years ago. As far as the failure of language goes, it also reminds me of out-of-body experiences. And psychic experiences that go beyond the five senses. Not only is it difficult to describe them, but people are so skeptical, judgmental, and rude that it's not even worth trying. Afterward, all you can say is that the universe and existence are far more bizarre than any of us can possibly realize or understand.
Brent, have you ever seen one of those Sumerian tablets with an extra planet? Or even photos of them? I have not...I have not looked in a while and I would prefer to have either someone who has seen them or something like a locally produced museum guide. I am uncertain whether he has based this on an actual archeological artifact.
The comparison to watching a child grow in a mirror is actually pretty effective. What's interesting here is less the conclusion itself and more the framing of it as an evolutionary process rather than an information gate-keeping problem. Treating thecycle of whistleblower claims and official denials as intentional acclimatization rather than institutional failure changes what we should even be looking for as evidence of progress. I've noticed something similar in how specialized technical fields gradually permeate mainstream awareness; there's no single moment when "machine learning" became common knowledge, it just slowly became a thing people understood enough to reference casually. The suggestion that the phenomenon itself might be managing its own disclosure rategets weird but it's internally consistent with how selective the manifestations seem to be.
I now think that expecting an era to come will encompass the dawning of awareness of what UAPs now merely point to is itself a fallacy. I note how this post was written; you state & restate the straining of credulity with each era's evolving framing of the phenomena, and every few paragraphs advance slightly. Until in the end you suggest an era will come in which we'll be aware of what UAPs signify & that an extended disclosure occurred earlier in that era.
I'd argue that any such sudden or extended disclosure will never happen. Instead UFOs etc is something we're projecting that allow us to abbreviate recent shifts in awareness. So are there other species elsewhere in space/time. Yes, absolutely. They're here now among us, but their exposure would drive observers cuckoo. So they adhere to a specific injunction not to self-reveal to unready species. So we're evolving our own capacity & willingness to see beyond our current dimensional limits.
Fascinating piece. Thanks. Regarding the phenomena wanting to be seen (known) without proof thereof does that not sound familar? Is that not the definition of faith in the religious context? I do think you are on to something with the selective disclosure point and maybe the big reveal is not workable because of the variation of comprehensive abilities from human to human is so great. IOW some can grasp the implications, some cannot. I also think that whatever the source of the phenomena are, and I absolutely believe they occur, it may not be extraterrestrial but rather extradimensional. I used to think heaven was some far off place. I no longer believe that having watched the end of life of both parents and my in-laws. I think it is just the next dimension and that it is laid on top of ours like fractals. And that as your time draws near (or your consciousness expands in some cases) you begin to perceive things you never could before. Second to lastly what you describe of the evolution of human ability to interpret observations of the phenomena at issue is I think true of this iteration of human history. But I think this is just the latest iteration of human civilization. My instinct is that very advanced, likely more advanced than ours, civilizations, have existed before and perished; that humans engage in a cyclical pattern of development and collapse. Lastly, because I am open to pretty much infinite possibilities, as I pondered WTF was going on with covid, I wondered if it was a necessary adaptation for interaction with aliens.
Wow, hadn't thought of that. But such a genocide seems a very costly adaptation. Though I suppose such an accelerated adaptation might manifest in such a way. Things don't seem markedly different after vs. before covid.
They do not. This thought crossed my mind very early on when I had concluded it was not a naturally occuring virus and was considering why it was being used. I guess I preferred an alien encounter to duplicitous government actors.
“UFOs” move like massless images - like a laser pointer dancing around a wall - because that’s exactly what they are; optical projections, accidental reflections, and tricks played by and on the identical mechanisms of cameras and eyes
There could be a vehicle from another part of the galaxy.
At the same time, a dose of reality.
Without evidence there is no way to tell whether any of the testimony is accurate, anybody can say or mix up information with others, and tell a nice story.
Surely, any lifeform could of destroyed the Earth's ecosystems. There is that side to this subject.
An Astronaut would've of seen some sort of object or more. Sixty years now. The nearest star system is decades, well centuries away. What known resources are there, to be able to even power a vehicle to get to the solar system. Just orbiting Pluto in a moon vehicle is unthinkable, the distant, and the darkness of space.
I tend to stick with the former what the NASA Administrator Mr Nelson, there is no real evidence, or any small evidence that shows that any of these sightings have happened.
Lily,
One of the best assessments I've ever read. I agree that a "War of the Worlds" type scenario is unlikely and too dramatic for its own good, though I do not rule out the potential for a false flag. What is the consensus on whether Wernher von Braun really did warn about this?
You are cautious but also include a wide diversity of phenomena. Then there are the experiences associated with "UFOs" that are not directly about space craft, such as missing time.
I knew someone who was an Air Force officer (captain, with some degree of clearance, now deceased, but he lives on in my graphic design training) who was charged with guarding the files at one location during the Korean War (night watchman). He said he read the whole thing and that the most interesting discovery was documentation of the Roswell-area crash (really in Corona), bodies and craft recovered, Hangar 18 true. What is the chances that this was spiked?
If so, why was it in the files? Who would assume a security-cleared officer would read it and tell the story to one of his trusted students?
Steven M. Greer (I am undecided what to make of him) says that all known visible phenomena are the work of earth-based military contractors, including the "tic tac" that can instantly change locations. So while I accept that some kind of earth-based, local, natural phenom is likely, there are probably things we're paying for that we're not being told about. What, exactly, goes on at A51? It's "not for nothing."
Then there are the corn muffins, in one era offered to people by faeries emerging from the woods, and in another by "alien visitors" descending from a "space ship," in both instances wearing the garb of their era. But both times, it was corn muffins. Now that is spooky, especially if you include the potential for jam and butter.
— efc
Very interesting and intelligent article on a difficult topic. I really enjoyed it. Regarding the intelligence behind it, it brings to mind the Anunnaki from Zachariah Stitchin's book, The 12th Planet. He didn't write a novel. He was a translator of the ancient languages and simply presents his translations from the Sumerians of 5,000 to 6,000 years ago. As far as the failure of language goes, it also reminds me of out-of-body experiences. And psychic experiences that go beyond the five senses. Not only is it difficult to describe them, but people are so skeptical, judgmental, and rude that it's not even worth trying. Afterward, all you can say is that the universe and existence are far more bizarre than any of us can possibly realize or understand.
Brent, have you ever seen one of those Sumerian tablets with an extra planet? Or even photos of them? I have not...I have not looked in a while and I would prefer to have either someone who has seen them or something like a locally produced museum guide. I am uncertain whether he has based this on an actual archeological artifact.
The comparison to watching a child grow in a mirror is actually pretty effective. What's interesting here is less the conclusion itself and more the framing of it as an evolutionary process rather than an information gate-keeping problem. Treating thecycle of whistleblower claims and official denials as intentional acclimatization rather than institutional failure changes what we should even be looking for as evidence of progress. I've noticed something similar in how specialized technical fields gradually permeate mainstream awareness; there's no single moment when "machine learning" became common knowledge, it just slowly became a thing people understood enough to reference casually. The suggestion that the phenomenon itself might be managing its own disclosure rategets weird but it's internally consistent with how selective the manifestations seem to be.
I now think that expecting an era to come will encompass the dawning of awareness of what UAPs now merely point to is itself a fallacy. I note how this post was written; you state & restate the straining of credulity with each era's evolving framing of the phenomena, and every few paragraphs advance slightly. Until in the end you suggest an era will come in which we'll be aware of what UAPs signify & that an extended disclosure occurred earlier in that era.
I'd argue that any such sudden or extended disclosure will never happen. Instead UFOs etc is something we're projecting that allow us to abbreviate recent shifts in awareness. So are there other species elsewhere in space/time. Yes, absolutely. They're here now among us, but their exposure would drive observers cuckoo. So they adhere to a specific injunction not to self-reveal to unready species. So we're evolving our own capacity & willingness to see beyond our current dimensional limits.
Fascinating piece. Thanks. Regarding the phenomena wanting to be seen (known) without proof thereof does that not sound familar? Is that not the definition of faith in the religious context? I do think you are on to something with the selective disclosure point and maybe the big reveal is not workable because of the variation of comprehensive abilities from human to human is so great. IOW some can grasp the implications, some cannot. I also think that whatever the source of the phenomena are, and I absolutely believe they occur, it may not be extraterrestrial but rather extradimensional. I used to think heaven was some far off place. I no longer believe that having watched the end of life of both parents and my in-laws. I think it is just the next dimension and that it is laid on top of ours like fractals. And that as your time draws near (or your consciousness expands in some cases) you begin to perceive things you never could before. Second to lastly what you describe of the evolution of human ability to interpret observations of the phenomena at issue is I think true of this iteration of human history. But I think this is just the latest iteration of human civilization. My instinct is that very advanced, likely more advanced than ours, civilizations, have existed before and perished; that humans engage in a cyclical pattern of development and collapse. Lastly, because I am open to pretty much infinite possibilities, as I pondered WTF was going on with covid, I wondered if it was a necessary adaptation for interaction with aliens.
Wow, hadn't thought of that. But such a genocide seems a very costly adaptation. Though I suppose such an accelerated adaptation might manifest in such a way. Things don't seem markedly different after vs. before covid.
They do not. This thought crossed my mind very early on when I had concluded it was not a naturally occuring virus and was considering why it was being used. I guess I preferred an alien encounter to duplicitous government actors.
Well I dunno about the rest of you retards but im ready for FULL DISCLOSURE.
I wish they would take better pictures of UFOs. My phone camera takes HD movies and has 50x zoom. Yet...
“UFOs” move like massless images - like a laser pointer dancing around a wall - because that’s exactly what they are; optical projections, accidental reflections, and tricks played by and on the identical mechanisms of cameras and eyes
There could be a vehicle from another part of the galaxy.
At the same time, a dose of reality.
Without evidence there is no way to tell whether any of the testimony is accurate, anybody can say or mix up information with others, and tell a nice story.
Surely, any lifeform could of destroyed the Earth's ecosystems. There is that side to this subject.
An Astronaut would've of seen some sort of object or more. Sixty years now. The nearest star system is decades, well centuries away. What known resources are there, to be able to even power a vehicle to get to the solar system. Just orbiting Pluto in a moon vehicle is unthinkable, the distant, and the darkness of space.
I tend to stick with the former what the NASA Administrator Mr Nelson, there is no real evidence, or any small evidence that shows that any of these sightings have happened.
Interesting thoughts, Lily. What did you decide not to report?
Measured and cogent. A great explanation. Thank you.
Yes, brilliant & likely correct!
Brilliant.
Lily, sorry for hogging your comments, my Atlantis Bureau Chief just sent this
https://mashable.com/video/disclosure-day-trailer-steven-spielberg-emily-blunt
Nice heels